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I Wish I Were in Public School Again

At the ripe old age of 58, I realize that is unlikely to happen. Besides, as I have previously posted I didn’t like it all that much the first time. But now, it would be different. For , you see, something is going to happen on September 8, 2009 that has never happened in the history of American public education.

President Barack Obama is going to make a live  address to all public school students on the above referenced day. Wonder what he will say ? Will there be any advance notice of the topic?  What could be the purpose of such  a speech? For example, what benefit are children in the early grades(K–2) going to get from it ? Is it a type of indoctrination as I have seen from some who are concerned? Or is that an overreaction? Hard to say without  knowing somthing about his speech. I really am a bit disturbed about it  in some ways and would in all likelihood feel the same regardless of which President was speaking. For example, when a President makes a prime time address whichis somewhat commonplace, there is an option or two available. Watch something else or turn off the television come to mind. In the public school  setting, there is the prototypical captive audience.  Plus, teachers will presumbly have beenpreparing their students in advance for the address. Who is the President, what do you know about him, etc.

Also, bear in mind that teachers or at least their unions skew heavily Democrat  and this could be  a  factoras well. So, should parents who have doubts keep their children at home, go with them if possible or what? What about home schooled children or children in private schools? Are they automatically excluded? Just seems to be lots of unanswered questions. I suppose I am just thinking out loud, so to speak, since  my children are long gone from public school. I do have  a 4th grade grandson and I will surely be interested to hear his take on the speech.

Oh, one more thing, if a child is kept home that day by their parents, will they  be excused or not? So many questions and so few answers. Michele Malkin has a great post on the topic today, entitled “No Junior Lobbyist Left Behind.” She has  some good references of other  examples of children being “used”  politically.

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September 2, 2009 - Posted by | Children, education, Media | , , ,

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  2. Awwww, THT, I’m disappointed in you, this time.

    “Wonder what he will say ? Will there be any advance notice of the topic? What could be the purpose of such a speech? For example, what benefit are children in the early grades(K–2) going to get from it ? Is it a type of indoctrination as I have seen from some who are concerned? Or is that an overreaction? Hard to say without knowing somthing about his speech.”

    Then why didn ‘t you see if there WAS something to know about his speech, in advance? The answers to most, if not all, of the questions you posed are right there on the White House website:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/mediaresources/

    “THE PRESIDENT’S BACK-TO-SCHOOL MESSAGE TO AMERICA’S STUDENTS
    Help get America’s students engaged! On Tuesday, September 8 — the first day of school for many students — the President will talk directly to students across the country on the importance of taking responsibility for their education, challenging them to set goals and do everything they can to succeed. We want to make sure that as many schools and classrooms nationwide can participate in this special opportunity, so we are making the President’s address and all the information that comes with it available as widely as possible. Whether you are a teacher, a school board member, or a member of the media, find information below to help you watch and be engaged with the President in welcoming our students back to school.”

    As a teacher, this whole non-issue turned rightwingnut issue really pisses me off. Just which part of his planned speech is so objectionable? Do we not want students who take responsibility for their education? Should we not challenge students to set goals for themselves? Would we prefer that they try NOT to succeed?

    As for excluding anybody?

    “How to Watch
    •The President’s message will be streamed live on WhiteHouse.gov/live, and broadcast live on C-Span
    •Downloadable video of the speech will be made available on this page later that day as it becomes available
    •For school districts hoping to access the satellite feed, it will be available beginning at 11:00 AM (EDT) using the following coordinates:
    * Galaxy 28/Transponder 17, Slot C (9 MHz)
    * Uplink Frequency 14344.5 Horizontal
    * Downlink Frequency 12044.5 Vertical”

    This paranoia and hatred being foisted on all of us by rightwing radio talking heads is downright scary. We shouldn’t give up our ability to think for ourselves so quickly.

    Comment by larrys | September 3, 2009 | Reply

  3. A couple of questions remain unanswered for me. What was the reaction to a similar speech made by President Bush in 1991? By the way, my wife was a teacher and she also has concerns about the concept. I certainly have no take with paranoia and hatred being foisted by anyone, be it Glenn Beck or be it Charles Rangel.. Again, had Bush the younger been doing this, how would feel- pro or con? I just do not think any president needs to address the more impressionable among us in this manner.

    Comment by tarheeltalker | September 4, 2009 | Reply

  4. I think the best thing to do is what many Americans will, keep their children home that day. Obama has been campaigning instead of working on important issues such as Iran, NK, Healthcare, Jobs and I could go on and on! He will go down in history as the worst president of all times. Obama stay out of our personal lives and yes our everyday family life. I would think if our children are free game for Obama then his two girls daily information and actions is free game to talk about!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 5, 2009 | Reply

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  6. I wouldn’t have a problem with ANY President of the United States encouraging kids to stay in school and work hard. I didn’t mind when Reagan or GHWB did it, and they were arguably a little political in their messages. It’s a fifteen to twenty minute speech — not the hour-long speech that GTP lies about (again). And quite frankly, if you’re willing to keep your kid home from school out of fear of what the President could do to them in a 15 miunute speech, then pull them out and keep them out for good. Home school them, and they’ll wind up like a bunch of GTP cretins: nice and conservative and stupid as hell.

    Comment by larrys | September 5, 2009 | Reply

  7. Here you go again larrys, trying to tell us what in the speech before Obama lets the media know! Let me also tell you that I’m not the only one that upset about Obama’s speech (or brainwashing) to children!

    Fairbanks school principals hold fate of Obama’s speech to students

    Two of the district’s many elementary schools, Anderson and Crawford, will not be in session on Tuesday. Alternate activities are being set up for students who do not want to watch the speech.

    Students will not need parental permission to opt out of watching the president speak, Bailey said.

    The school district has received dozens of calls since word of the speech spread earlier this week. Some parents have called to keep their children home from school on Tuesday.
    http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/sep/05/fairbanks-school-principals-hold-fate-obamas-speec/

    So larrys how do you know what Obama will say? Are you in his pockets? Matter of fact Obama has taken some of the speech out because of the complaints! Better luck next time!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 5, 2009 | Reply

  8. Almost forgot:
    Keep your child out of school Sept. 8. Have them stay at home and read the Constitution of the United States instead and include the Bill of Rights. By reading these, perhaps they’ll learn about the freedoms they face losing.
    http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/sep/03/stay-home/

    Has anyone notice that Obama’s approval ratings are falling to the bottom of the well?

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 5, 2009 | Reply

  9. How do I know what the President will say? I don’t know for sure, but I did take the time to review the White House website to see what the plan is. Do I think the President is stupid enough to deviate far afield from the pre-announced agenda? No, he’s not as stupid as you, GTP. Because , if he did, he’d be absolutely hammered for it. And, given that it’s all of a 15 minute speech, it just wouldn’t be worth his while. A good solid brainwashing takes at least 30 minutes to work.

    Constant hysteria and blinding hatred cannot be good for your mental or physical health, GTP. Ask your doctor to increase your dosages.

    Comment by larrys | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  10. larrys: President is stupid enough to deviate far afield from the pre-announced agenda?

    Well he did deviate from what he had plan to say because the people don’t want him brainwashing their children. You need to keep up with what your beloved savior is up to instead of running people that are against his policies down, but wait a minute that is what liberals do huh!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  11. Criticism of the speech began when it was learned that an accompanying lesson plan referred to ways students can “help the President” and urged them to think about “what the President wants us to do.” Conservative commentators have accused Obama of trying to create a “cult of personality” along the lines of Fidel Castro or Moammar Qaddafi. The White House quickly responded to early signs of trouble, removing the offending phrases
    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/09/04/some-parents-revolt-over-obama-s-speech-to-children?icid=sphere_wpcom_inline

    Goodtimepolitics: Seem to be that your savior had other plans for our children and if the people had not spoken out he would have carried out his plans!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  12. Oh, how moronic can you get, GTP? There HAS to be a limit somewhere, no? You cannot simply keep sinking deeper and deeeper into ognorance, can you?

    “what the President wants us to do.”

    Hmmmmm… let’s see. Stay in school? Work hard? Succeed? Since that was his stated intention all along, don’t they sound like logical answers to the question??

    You see boogeymen hiding behind every shrub, GTP. You’re an extremely sad little man. And, in encouraging people to keep their kids home from school, all you’re doing is ensuring that the next generation is as illiterate as you are!

    “he did deviate from what he had plan to say ” Do you understand basic grammar, GTP? Do you know what nouns and verbs are? Can you tell past tense from present tense? Do you get that singular nouns need singular verbs and plural nouns need plural verbs? You’re nothing but poor ignorant white trash, and you want company. Don’t subject our children to a miserable life like yours, PLEASE!

    Comment by larrys | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  13. larrys: You’re nothing but poor ignorant white trash

    Goodtimepolitics: You sound just like your stupid savior Barack Obama and his men, larrys, which we understand the source where that comment comes from and therefore it makes me laugh as Obama’s ratings fall to the bottom! You’re sure not helping his cause talking that way! I see he lost one of his racist Csars today also!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  14. “…which we understand the source where that comment comes from …”

    What language is that, GTP? IS it a language, or is it just your trailer park’s local dialect?

    Comment by larrys | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  15. You sound alittle worried there larrys, starting your old ways of name calling and running people down! That would be like a failed lawyer that had to turn to teaching! Obama says Roll over rover! 🙂

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  16. Worried? Because you cannnot form a sentence? Hardly!

    Comment by larrys | September 6, 2009 | Reply

  17. That your savior ratings are falling fast to the bottom, the American people do not trust him and he has lied to the people from back during the campaign! He even lied to you but you don’t care cause he’s your man! 🙂

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 7, 2009 | Reply

  18. “Ratings” are for TV shows. The only poll that matters happens every four years, and Obama won that one in a landslide. Didn’t your hero, Bushie, always say that he did the right thing, not the popular thing.

    By the way, Obama’s address to students has been posted, in advance, on the White House website. Have somebody read it to you, GTP, and let us know where all the brainwashing comes in.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

    That raises an interesting question: do you have to have a brain in the first place in order to be brainwashed? That may save you, GTP!

    Comment by larrys | September 7, 2009 | Reply

  19. So, GTP, the question is:

    As stupid as you normally are, do you feel any more stupid now that President Obama’s given his speech and it was nothing but fine?

    You should be ashamed for attacking such a non-issue. But you’ve already proven, you have no shame,.

    Comment by larrys | September 8, 2009 | Reply

  20. Back when G.W. Bush father gave a speech to the school children the liberals went crazy and there was a piece in the Washington times about how wrong it was the next day. Then the democrats in congress had an investigation to find out if his speech was funded by taxpayers money….where you liberals stupid then larrys?

    I say that Obama isn’t a very good example for our children to follow, therefore I don’t think it was right for Obama to try and brag on himself. If the Bible is not allow in school then politics should not be allow. We parents will teach our own children about politics and don’t need Obama teaching them his corrupt ways! Just my opinion! I ask you a question now how will you answer it!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 9, 2009 | Reply

  21. Foot in mouth don’t taste good huh larrys? I ask again were you liberal democrats crazy and stupid in October of 1991?

    President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech in October 1991 to students at a junior high school in Washington, D.C., Democratic critics went much further and investigated the event, Washington Examiner columnist Byron York reported Tuesday.

    Democrats, who controlled Congress at the time, ordered the General Accounting Office to probe the production of the speech and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for a hearing, York wrote.

    after Bush spoke, The Washington Post implied in a front-page story that the speech was staged for the president’s political benefit, and Democratic allies continued to pounce on Bush for the cost of the event.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/08/elder-bushs-speech-students-drew-democratic-probe/

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 9, 2009 | Reply

  22. A couple of things, GTP:

    1. I voted for GHWB. I was a registered Republican and voted for every Republican presidential candidate from the time I started voting in 1976 until the election of 2004.

    2. I wasn’t teaching in 1981, so I don’t have a strong recollection of what may or may not have happened back then. I didn’t see much harm in what GHWB had to say, based on the clips I’ve seen recently. But even if the Dems threateened a congressional investigation, it pales in comparison with the hysterical frenzy you rightwingnuts drummed up this time.

    And you looked like complete dumbasses in the end.

    And, after tonight’s speech, you better pump up the volume and the vitriol, GTP, because your side is playing from behind in the healthcare reform issue now.

    Comment by larrys | September 10, 2009 | Reply

  23. Obama’s same old words and same old lies again tonight in his stupid speech! He said the same things, looks like his speech writer could come up with a few answers of where Obama will get the money to pay for his wanted heath care! Where is the bill? How can he push for health care without a bill that he can explain to we the people what is in it? He has fail on getting his bill passed because he was suppose to bring people together, not drive them farther apart! The congress was handed a 1.3 million signed petition from “free our Health care”!

    I didn’t think you would own up to being crazy and stupid back when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech! Oh well! we see where you’re coming from…yes the Obama church!

    More than 1.3 million Americans go on the record to protect choice, access, fairness and responsibility; Leading opponents of government-run health care provided a massive demonstration of strength today, as the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) and Salem Radio Network delivered the more than 1.3 million signatures behind their joint Free Our Health Care Now petition to Congress at a rally held on Capitol Hill.

    The NCPA, a leader in public policy research for more than 25 years, provided the content and analysis on almost all facets of the debate, including educational guidance on the framing and substance of the petition itself. http://www.cnbc.com/id/32760514

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 10, 2009 | Reply

  24. I’ll see your 1.3 million and raise it about 68 million. That;s how many more people voted for Obama in November, when it counted. Put your silly petition where the sun don’t shine.

    Comment by larrys | September 11, 2009 | Reply

  25. […] •The President’s message will be streamed live on WhiteHouse.gov/live , and broadcast live on C-Span •Downloadable video of the speech will be made available on this page later that day as it becomes available …Continue Reading… […]

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  26. You’re one laugh larrys, I don’t see those millions you’re singing about in the polls. You need input, you need input go to Obama get input larrys!

    Comment by goodtimepolitics | September 11, 2009 | Reply


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